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  1. #46
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    Цитата Сообщение от Anthony817 Посмотреть сообщение
    Hey Dreammatrix, Captain Dreamcast optomixed the disc and made a dummy file for it. He should have it uploaded tomorrow. Here is what he said about it. Maybe he can be of some help to you later?
    Hm, why not just bring it here and say:

    Image Format: CDI
    Compression Format: RAR
    Size: 151 MB
    Код:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PHT82ILH
    There's not much else to say... Anthony already talked about my thoughts regarding the file order. But don't get this wrong, this game was optimized A LOT
    I've even preserved the Rockridge and Joliet filesystems, even though they are pretty useless :/
    By the way, thanks Dreammatrix for including the IP.BIN in your release. That way I didn't have to manually extract it from the CDI. It wouldn't have been that hard, but still annoying
    For Great Justice!

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    Цитата Сообщение от Moi Посмотреть сообщение

    To find a good size for the dummy file use this a rule: 700mb(cdr size) - 30mb(selfboot session) - modsize= size of the dummy file (but you don't have to be that exact.)
    Thanks again Moi, this was exactly my doubt
    So we can use any file that we want for the dumy file as a movie or mp3 ?

    Цитата Сообщение от Captain Dreamcast Посмотреть сообщение
    Hm, why not just bring it here and say:

    Image Format: CDI
    Compression Format: RAR
    Size: 151 MB
    Код:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PHT82ILH
    There's not much else to say... Anthony already talked about my thoughts regarding the file order. But don't get this wrong, this game was optimized A LOT
    I've even preserved the Rockridge and Joliet filesystems, even though they are pretty useless :/
    By the way, thanks Dreammatrix for including the IP.BIN in your release. That way I didn't have to manually extract it from the CDI. It wouldn't have been that hard, but still annoying
    Ok, feel free to change the ip.bin ot other things that you want; the files that take more time on loading are models,wads and sound
    Try something like this:
    data/VALVE/PAK0.PAK =>models
    data/BARNEY/PAK1.PAK =>models,sound and maps for they hunger ep3
    data/VALVE/PAK1.PAK =>sound
    data/BARNEY/PAK0.PAK
    data/VALVE/ .WADs => it loads 1 time one map changing
    data/VALVE/gfx
    data/VALVE/maps
    data/valve/ files
    data/VALVE/saves
    data/HALFLIFE_DC.EXE
    data/1ST_READ.BIN 1
    data/dumy => first on cd

    Thanks for add the dumy file in the image!
    Последний раз редактировалось Dreammatrix; 22.10.2010 в 19:06.

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    Try something like this:
    data/HALFLIFE_DC.EXE
    data/VALVE/PAK0.PAK
    data/BARNEY/PAK1.PAK
    data/VALVE/neilm2.WAD
    data/VALVE/neilm4.WAD
    data/VALVE/neilm5.WAD
    data/VALVE/CS_BDOG.WAD
    data/VALVE/HALFLIFE.WAD
    data/VALVE/xeno.WAD
    data/VALVE/liquids.WAD
    data/VALVE/GFX.WAD
    data/VALVE/DECALS.WAD
    data/VALVE/fonts.WAD
    data/VALVE/CACHED.WAD
    data/VALVE/SPRAYPAINT.WAD
    data/VALVE/PAK2.PAK
    data/BARNEY/PAK0.PAK
    data/VALVE/maps
    data/VALVE/gfx
    data/valve/ files
    data/VALVE/saves
    data/1ST_READ.BIN 1
    data/dumy

    Thanks for add the dumy file in the image!
    Hmm, I put the saves in the inner part and the exe in the fast area, but from what I see, the 1ST_READ.BIN is not as important here as I thought... Well, I'll try remaking the disc when I have a bit more time, the changes with the new file order would be pretty minimal anyway since the game files aren't THAT big.

    Oh, and what I forgot to say before: Thanks for the port, it's really good! Or as you brazilians would say... Obrigado!
    For Great Justice!

  4. #49
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    So we can use any file that we want for the dumy file as a movie or mp3 ?
    Right, but using dummy files is more efficient since those have just one character repeated over and over again making it easy to compress and almost not noticeable in download size(a 300mb dummy coiuld be compressed to something like a couple kb IIRC), while a large mp3 or avi file is already compressed and would make the download take longer for the end user.

    may i suggest a different order?

    data/1ST_READ.BIN 1 --------------+ loaded only once
    data/HALFLIFE_DC.EXE -------------+ loaded only once

    data/dumy ---------------------------+ pushing the data to a higher position on the cdr


    data/VALVE/GFX.WAD --------------+ loaded at the menus
    data/VALVE/gfx
    data/VALVE/fonts.WAD -------------+ loaded at the menus (and possibly before the gameplay begins)




    data/valve/ files ----------------------+ only loaded once or as often as the game progress demands
    data/VALVE/saves
    data/VALVE/DECALS.WAD
    data/VALVE/neilm2.WAD
    data/VALVE/neilm4.WAD
    data/VALVE/neilm5.WAD
    data/VALVE/CS_BDOG.WAD
    data/VALVE/HALFLIFE.WAD
    data/VALVE/xeno.WAD
    data/VALVE/liquids.WAD
    data/VALVE/CACHED.WAD
    data/VALVE/SPRAYPAINT.WAD
    data/VALVE/maps ----------------------+ only loaded once or as often as the game progress demands


    data/VALVE/PAK2.PAK-------------+ loaded almost all the time hence the position at the end of the cdr
    data/BARNEY/PAK0.PAK ...
    data/VALVE/PAK0.PAK ...
    data/BARNEY/PAK1.PAK-----------+ loaded almost all the time hence the position at the end of the cdr
    I'm not that experienced with the order of file loading in HL, but it should still be pretty accurate.
    Best way to find out would of course be to benchmark different possibilities on differently burnt cdrs but I'd suggest to wait for a final version before doing so.

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    Цитата Сообщение от Captain Dreamcast Посмотреть сообщение
    Hm, why not just bring it here and say:

    Image Format: CDI
    Compression Format: RAR
    Size: 151 MB
    Код:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PHT82ILH
    There's not much else to say... Anthony already talked about my thoughts regarding the file order. But don't get this wrong, this game was optimized A LOT
    I've even preserved the Rockridge and Joliet filesystems, even though they are pretty useless :/
    By the way, thanks Dreammatrix for including the IP.BIN in your release. That way I didn't have to manually extract it from the CDI. It wouldn't have been that hard, but still annoying
    Getting ready to download. Captain dreamcast is that the link for the dummied ISO?

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    Yes this is the final dummied version they made. Loading times are much faster than before now too.

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    Yes this is the final dummied version they made. Loading times are much faster than before now too.
    Great to hear. Thanks Anthony817 gnna dig into this one for awhile.

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    For those that didn't know, I posted this on an update on They Hunger Moddb page. Lots of people have been very happy about this mod being playable on a console.

    They Hunger mod for Half-Life - Mod DB

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    I got this message at the Moddb website.

    Can someone tell me,what new zombie in Dreamcast version,i it yourselfs,or you take it From HD-PAK,or They hunger:Tacticals ?
    Do you remember which ones they were Dreammatrix?

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    Yes, the model i take it from TH-HD PAK
    But i dont remenber exataly the name of the model superzombie.mdl i guess

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